tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post6387437148477970580..comments2023-04-07T10:27:50.934-05:00Comments on Xanboni: Repost: skating terms tutorialAlexandrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04087069977867729538noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-27527394968992466692012-01-27T22:58:11.015-06:002012-01-27T22:58:11.015-06:00Thanks everyone! I clearly need an editor!Thanks everyone! I clearly need an editor!Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087069977867729538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-79759166737172156802012-01-27T22:57:14.119-06:002012-01-27T22:57:14.119-06:00I wouldn't say IJS has ruined skating, but it ...I wouldn't say IJS has ruined skating, but it has changed it, and frankly the changes don't go far enough. If you're going to make it a point system that rewards the athletic output, then make it a skills competition on the lines of gymnastics, with the program being a final all-around. I would have absolutely no problem watching a jumps, a spins, a footwork, and a moves in the field event, analogous to parallel bars, floor exercise, balance beam, vault. I think you'd see amazing 4 and 5 and 6 jump combos, or 200 foot sequences, or quints. I think you'd see spins that last for a minute. Of course, suggesting this is a fun way to watch skating coaches' heads explode.Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087069977867729538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-18808124770341971642012-01-27T22:52:58.611-06:002012-01-27T22:52:58.611-06:00Thanks-- fixed. Yes, I knew what I meant to say (C...Thanks-- fixed. Yes, I knew what I meant to say (CW) but didn't say it!Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087069977867729538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-59776573060810412292012-01-27T22:51:50.942-06:002012-01-27T22:51:50.942-06:00Ah-- good catch. That mistake falls under the &quo...Ah-- good catch. That mistake falls under the "do what I mean not what I say" category. As you can tell from the phrasing I meant to point out that Alissa jumps in the non-dominant direction! Fixed.Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087069977867729538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-80488275553376649572012-01-27T18:34:02.250-06:002012-01-27T18:34:02.250-06:00Xan, the jump descriptions are correct for CCW ska...Xan, the jump descriptions are correct for CCW skaters. You said you were going to describe the jumps from a CW perspective but actually did the opposite, so I think that's what has people confused. Also, Alissa skates CW, not CCW.CCWskaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-18022571227077984262012-01-27T16:20:17.695-06:002012-01-27T16:20:17.695-06:00Figure skating is a sport. It's a sport I love...Figure skating is a sport. It's a sport I love participating in at the rec level, but I've stopped watching it on TV, and can't be bothered to keep up with all the rule changes.<br /><br />The ISU has turned competitive figure skating into judged entertainment. (The loss of the compulsory dance was the end). The NJS is just awful. I figure a fall on a jump ought to be a FAIL. Not doing so, but giving skaters points for an 'attempt' just turns a competition into a splat fest. <br />Also the focus on jumping has really degraded skating skills. I'd love to do a statistical analysis of the time spent on two feet vs one foot for skating programs in the Olympics. I swear I see a lot more two foot skating than I used to. And you don't see stuff like Barbara Scotts alternating axels anymore. (There's a woman that could pass FS10. ) NJS has made everything the same, and everything's become dull. <br />Yet the French Judge is still judging the last I heard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-35385197655539562682012-01-27T15:59:27.167-06:002012-01-27T15:59:27.167-06:00I think this lead-in is causing confusion:
"...I think this lead-in is causing confusion: <br /><br />"All jumps described for clockwise skaters (only 1 in 15 or so skaters are ccw, Alissa Czisny being one). For CCW, same edge, other foot."<br /><br />Should be the other way around, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-84585995690251083912012-01-27T08:21:38.221-06:002012-01-27T08:21:38.221-06:00I once did a 2-hour seminar on Technical Calling, ...I once did a 2-hour seminar on Technical Calling, and they have to call every single turn in the foot work. They *do* have a guide from the coach telling them what's supposed to be there but they have to make an instant judgment as to whether that's what's there (and sometimes it gets changed--they don't have to announce if it's been changed, and there's no penalty for not doing what's on the cheat sheet) AND WRITE IT DOWN while watching. It is *murderously* difficult. I really try not to complain (too much) about the tech calls; those guys are nearly gods as far as I'm concerned.Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087069977867729538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-70071152753066879782012-01-27T08:18:19.797-06:002012-01-27T08:18:19.797-06:00I just walked through them as described and I'...I just walked through them as described and I'm pretty sure I've got them right. Yes CCW is the dominant direction. Anyone else want to comment on this? Am I describing the jumps correctly?Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087069977867729538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-84840046869483626152012-01-27T08:04:57.855-06:002012-01-27T08:04:57.855-06:00Is it just me or are the jumps described for CCW s...Is it just me or are the jumps described for CCW skaters, not CW? CCW being the norm?turnipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-85213811573710660482012-01-27T02:00:42.922-06:002012-01-27T02:00:42.922-06:00I do too (completely agree btw)...plus a tutorial ...I do too (completely agree btw)...plus a tutorial on how to tell the difference between rockers/brackets/counters at speed would be nice (I know the difference in my head but with 8 sorts of each I just cannot call them at anything like speed - let alone in a step sequence).MKPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-575305438163603482012-01-26T22:47:51.013-06:002012-01-26T22:47:51.013-06:00Hehehe I want to hear the ice dance rant... althou...Hehehe I want to hear the ice dance rant... although I am pretty sure I know what you are going to say and I am pretty sure I would agree with you 100%. Makes me happy I am in the sport that still competes compulsory dance and compulsory figures at the world championships.T. Sedaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684101466551796470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-466093691926458332.post-54132971375978910462012-01-26T20:18:50.481-06:002012-01-26T20:18:50.481-06:00I'll be the one to say it, since you've be...I'll be the one to say it, since you've been around skating forever and this won't be obvious: even those of us who skate a bit can't always tell some of the jumps apart. In theory, I know what all of them are. I can do a (not very good) salchow & toe loop, half flip & half lutz (hence theoretically, I get the set up). Loop (and obviously axel) are the ones I haven't started to try yet but also are the most recognizable. And yet, jumps in competition come up so fast with so little telegraphing when done well, that I am not always sure if I've just seen a lutz or a flip. It's fun to test myself in recognizing all these moves, but quite honestly, people who do them THAT well don't exist at my rink, so I don't see that kind of execution ever except on TV. I think part of the reason that fans get confused is that even the "also-rans" are far better than anyone at most local rinks.MommyTimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12860003098383600806noreply@blogger.com